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jess

Do I need a CDL?

I have got 2 definitions on this. Both based on the gvwr. Currently I have not bought truck nor trailer so the great state of Iowa tells me I have to get a Class A cdl to do this. This requirement, according to them, means that I have to 'rent' the largest vehicle that I may possibly drive with a Class A and pass the driving portion as well as PTI with it. I'm thinkin that that is just crap...

On the other hand, the State of Arkansas, which is were we will be out of company wise, tells me that I do not need a cdl if the weight of the truck and trailer do not surpass the 26,000 lb rule. Bone dry truck and trailer weight, not axle rating. I'm thinkin that makes a bit more sense...    

I do not want to get rolling on this venture, do great, make money, get stopped at a coop in a only to find out they also have a different interpretation of the basic Federal rule.

Any and all input would be great. Thanks.
jess

To be clear, Iowa wants me to rent a semi truck and a flatbed trailer. 2 of which sit in the DMV lot. I was told they cannot tell me who to call about renting, but I should drive over to them and get the info off the cab. I'm not sure but I feel someone is making a killin on this.

Arkansas CDL Officer Had told me it's based on scale wieght of your truck and trailer. I was told it would be found on the manufaturers plate.

We will be plated for 36,000 lbs.

Maybe I should move back to Arkansas a little sooner than I was plannin.
jimmyjack

U need a class A cdl anyway u want to look at it
jess

Thanks for the info. I thought it would be a good idea but was a bit rattled when I recieved several different interpretations for the same question.

Thanks again and if we ever cross paths some where the coffees on me.
Gary

In most states you can actually take your cdl test in the truck and trailer your going to be driving. You don't need the following endorsements, air brakes, doubles/triples, hazmat, or tanker. That is if your planning on setting up to run like most of us on here?

Not needing these endorsements makes getting a cdl A a lot easier. You just take the general knowledge part of the cdl written test, get your permit, and then practice the pre trip, and skills part.

You definitely want to get your license out of the state your going to operate out of and live in. Having a Arkansas license and basing your business out of and ivied while your living in MN would create some problems. For instance when your called for your dot audit you'd have to go to AR for it.

If MN doesnt require you to go to truck driver school I don't see how they can  not give you a cdl A testing in the truck and trailer you'll actually be driving.  Maybe you should go back to the DMV and talk to them again. Explain exactly what you'll be driving, let them know your rig won't have air brakes and you won't need the other endorsements? You might get lucky?
Dawico

Gary wrote:
If MN doesnt require you to go to truck driver school I don't see how they can  not give you a cdl A testing in the truck and trailer you'll actually be driving.  Maybe you should go back to the DMV and talk to them again. Explain exactly what you'll be driving, let them know your rig won't have air brakes and you won't need the other endorsements? You might get lucky?
That is what I am thinking. When you go for your CDL, most people just assume you are going to be driving an 18 wheeler. My DMV told me to drive the truck/ trailer combo or something similiar to what I needed the CDL for. Let them know exactly what you are going to be driving, and see if that helps.
jess

Thanks again for the info. My intentions are to run at least a 1 ton dually or an f450 with a gooseneck trailer. No big rigs in my future if I can help it.

I have been to the DMV here in Iowa several times and have several different answers from the same office. It has been told to me that if I test for a Class A lisence, I will take the PTI and driving tests in the 'largest vehicle for that class', an 18 wheeler. I have told them each time I will be driving a 1 ton pick up with a gooseneck trailer. This doesn't seem to change their response as to what I have to test in. About a week and a half of this prompted me to call and talk to an Officer in Arkansas, asking the same question.

I simply think that it should not require anyone that does LTL in a Pickup to test on a big rig. I'm making arraingments to head back to Arkansas and test there so I can start moving frieght and get some windshield time before the snow flies.

Thanks again for the info and a big thanks to who ever set this site up. I t has been more than educational than the State has been for sure. Keep up the good work!  
Gary

Your welcome and good luck. Keep us posted.
rick42885

I know here in Ny you can find driving schools that will take you to your test in a single axle tractor that's a manual 6 speed (syncronized like a car) and a 30 ft trailer. Its 500$ for a couple hours practice and then your time at the test site. I'm sure you can do the same there. That truck and trailer combo makes the test cake if your not experienced in big rigs. Then your able to drive anything there is. Always good to have a full. Class a. With air brakes. The endorsements are just written tests and hazmat There is a background check extra $150 in Ny.

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