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Brisco

Ford F450 ToterHome

I FOUND PICTURES!!

This is the Toterhome we have been speaking about over in Dutch's Sleeper thread. (Sorry for taking over the thread for a little while Dutch)

I searched and searched the internet trying to find pics to no avail. Tonight I thought I'd try that new "Bing" thing my MSN homepage has and searched thru the "Images" part. Look what popped up!!







Here are the specs to this thing:
Quote:
2005 Pony Xpress 6' Toterhome. All the essentials of the $130,000 new toterhomes for half the price! This new concept in toterhomes features a 6' box complete with a full bathroom, shower and sink, cabover sleeper and fold out couch. The coach is built on a new F450 Chassis with the new 6.0 Powerstroke Diesel engine and auto trans. This baby will run.

Don't let the size fool you. Can sleep 2 on the couch and one up in the cab over. Can pull 53' LQ trailer 80+ MPH! Truck is small enough for tow vehicle use.

http://www.insidetopalcohol.com/showthread.php?t=2408

Now, isn't this the coolest little ToterHome you've ever seen?? I absolutely LOVE it. Hate the "FORD" part of it, but Love the concept.

How many of you here would be interested in one of these for the type of work you are doing pulling your 40-50ft Goosenecks or 3-4 car trailers?

My opinion, if this was built on a real truck chassis, IE the Dodge 4500 or 5500, and the economy and freight rates got to where they used to be, that this thing might have a marketable future. If I was out there, I'd look into one in a heartbeat.

Glad the search is over. I was going out of mind trying to find pics of these things.  
mcgoo422000

Re: Ford F450 ToterHome

Brisco wrote:
I FOUND PICTURES!!

This is the Toterhome we have been speaking about over in Dutch's Sleeper thread. (Sorry for taking over the thread for a little while Dutch)

I searched and searched the internet trying to find pics to no avail. Tonight I thought I'd try that new "Bing" thing my MSN homepage has and searched thru the "Images" part. Look what popped up!!







Here are the specs to this thing:
Quote:
2005 Pony Xpress 6' Toterhome. All the essentials of the $130,000 new toterhomes for half the price! This new concept in toterhomes features a 6' box complete with a full bathroom, shower and sink, cabover sleeper and fold out couch. The coach is built on a new F450 Chassis with the new 6.0 Powerstroke Diesel engine and auto trans. This baby will run.

Don't let the size fool you. Can sleep 2 on the couch and one up in the cab over. Can pull 53' LQ trailer 80+ MPH! Truck is small enough for tow vehicle use.

http://www.insidetopalcohol.com/showthread.php?t=2408

Now, isn't this the coolest little ToterHome you've ever seen?? I absolutely LOVE it. Hate the "FORD" part of it, but Love the concept.

How many of you here would be interested in one of these for the type of work you are doing pulling your 40-50ft Goosenecks or 3-4 car trailers?

My opinion, if this was built on a real truck chassis, IE the Dodge 4500 or 5500, and the economy and freight rates got to where they used to be, that this thing might have a marketable future. If I was out there, I'd look into one in a heartbeat.

Glad the search is over. I was going out of mind trying to find pics of these things.  


 Looks heavy to me ?  And why would you want to ruin the toterhme by putting it on a dodge ?
mcgoo
Brisco

Cause from what I heard, it being placed on the Ford Chassis is what killed the whole concept, that's why. Poor poor mileage and high maintenance, that's the well documented history for that piece of shit PowerJoke.

Heavy?? Not with the power of the 6.7 Cummins Turbo Diesel. Just because the Ford PowerJoke couldn't handle it doesn't mean that it's too heavy. Blame the Power Unit, not the Concept.
mcgoo422000

Brisco wrote:
Cause from what I heard, it being placed on the Ford Chassis is what killed the whole concept, that's why. Poor poor mileage and high maintenance, that's the well documented history for that piece of shit PowerJoke.

Heavy?? Not with the power of the 6.7 Cummins Turbo Diesel. Just because the Ford PowerJoke couldn't handle it doesn't mean that it's too heavy. Blame the Power Unit, not the Concept.

Brisco
Cummins engine can't do nothing when the piece crap chrysler chassis falls apart .   The whole concept is flawed anyway whats the purpose
of a mini house on a ton truck ?  These applications are more than a one ton truck was designed for . Pulling a 40-45 foot trailer behind a one ton is really  streching the limits .
This don't include those who think you can regularly gross out at 36-39,000 on one of these trucks . I think stuff along those lines
is either specialty use or a waste of money you will be hard pressed to get your investment back out of it .

mcgoo
pantera427

Mcgoo,
Brisco said nothing about putting it on a 1 ton:
Quote:
IE the Dodge 4500 or 5500


I think the question of weight would apply more to how much it would take away from your load, same as hauling more fuel takes away from the load when it comes to weight. Has to be a balance.

I think it looks good, but it still looks like it would push a lot of air on the sides. Maybe if it was mounted to a supercab where you could fan the side of the truck out to the width of the toter?

It would be nice to have a "fortress of solitude" on the road with you, but it would be a pain when it came time to dump the blackwater tank at a dumpstation when you have a load on the trailer.
JBLichty

Sure looks like it would push alot of air and suck fuel on any truck in my opinion.
haulin rv

They did use a TON of fuel the husband wife team that had a F550 version at Classic when I was there struggled to get 8 pulling even small rv's and 10 running empty. They simply have too much drag with the over the cab section.
mcgoo422000

pantera427 wrote:
Mcgoo,
Brisco said nothing about putting it on a 1 ton:
Quote:
IE the Dodge 4500 or 5500


I think the question of weight would apply more to how much it would take away from your load, same as hauling more fuel takes away from the load when it comes to weight. Has to be a balance.

I think it looks good, but it still looks like it would push a lot of air on the sides. Maybe if it was mounted to a supercab where you could fan the side of the truck out to the width of the toter?

It would be nice to have a "fortress of solitude" on the road with you, but it would be a pain when it came time to dump the blackwater tank at a dumpstation when you have a load on the trailer.


 4500 and 5500 is still a basic one ton . The biggest difference
is the differential they have one of two more spring leaves and a higher gear ratio on a slightly bigger housing .  
Pulling 40,000 pounds with a 5500 at what cost versus pull 80,000
pounds with a class eight . How much cost difference is involved ?
The insurance isn't that much more the biggest difference is the milage 5-7.5 for a class 8 versus 8-11 for a hotshot just tossing together
some numbers the biggie is 12 cents more a mile for  fuel .
 IMO the return on your investment just don't justify itself .
When I started doing this my best guess was I would make
50-70% of what a big rig would so I planned on spending 50-70% of what I would versus a class eight .
After three years I still believe the same and I still don't worry about truck payments as I still will only invest 50-70% .
mcgoo
haulin rv

There is lot more difference. Frame, brakes, differential, tire size, suspension etc.
haulin rv

How about this...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-Toterhome-Body_W0QQitemZ140336669092QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRVs_Campers?hash=item20acb7a1a4&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245  

The price is WAY to high, I'd got get it for about a quarter of the BIN.



ccoop769

Did you know that the 4500's and 5500's in dodge only have a frame strength of 50,000 PSI???

Did you know the 2010 Ram 1500 has a frame strength of 80,000???

Does that sound right????
Brisco

haulin rv wrote:
How about this....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20...cb7a1a4&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

The price is WAY to high, I'd got get it for about a quarter of the BIN.

(Fixed the link for ya)


HHmmmm...............

I like it.........

Wonder if it will sell.

And I agree too, $10K and it's almost 6 years old. That's way too high. I might go $3-4,000 if I was wanting to buy it, but nowhere near $10K, period.
Brisco

ccoop769 wrote:
Did you know that the 4500's and 5500's in dodge only have a frame strength of 50,000 PSI???

Did you know the 2010 Ram 1500 has a frame strength of 80,000???

Does that sound right????


"Todays" 4500-5500 (2008-2009) frames may be 50K PSI.

Remember, the new 4500/5500 aint even in the works yet. But, if they improved the frames for the 2010 1500 models, then they'll probably improve the frames for the 2010 3500/4500/5500 frames also.

Haven't read up on that stuff yet.
pantera427

That last one, I thought a legal sleeper had to have access from the main cab to be legal?
Brisco

pantera427 wrote:
That last one, I thought a legal sleeper had to have access from the main cab to be legal?


This one in the auction does have access to the cab. The seller says this in the description:

"There is a passage to the truck cab, when I removed the box from the truck last week I have glued a matching aluminium panel to block it, it can easily be reopened, the gasket is included to join the truck cab."
TonyUFN

ccoop769 wrote:
Did you know that the 4500's and 5500's in dodge only have a frame strength of 50,000 PSI???

Did you know the 2010 Ram 1500 has a frame strength of 80,000???

Does that sound right????


Interesting.... mine is 80k.  Might be depending on how its ordered.
I'll try to dig up the window sticker to verify it later.

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