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ccoop769

Going Rates

Basically, what type of cargo and their rates currently????

I try runnin to houston tx and back to tampa florida once per week.
I know cars for the even 1000 miles avg 350-650 dollars which is 35-65 cpm. I usually try if permits to break it up around LA area like baton rouge or ????? which leads to more money. I never made less then 1500 dollars which is 1.50 per mile but avg around 1800-2200 which is 1.80 to 2.20 per mile for the 1000 mile haul. Ive maxxed out around 3.00 per mile on 1000 mile hauls but that happens rarely. I deal with mainly brokers which is pathetic but thats all I have for biz. I feel i work for free almost!!!!!! Other people say they avg 3.00 per mile with there duallys. Am i getting screwed?

So, how about freight and some ideas of how that works or other cargo. I feel that im close to getting an f650 with cat/ally3000 and maybe a 5/6 car trailer, but just browsing my options.

I would think with a 5 car trailer doing samething. I can make minium 2000 dollars or 2.00 per mile but maybe avg around 2.75 to 3.00 per mile!!!   AM I THINKING STRAIGHT??? Experienced, please help??????
phil

Well coop, that is the tough part about Garys business. You have to sort through page after page of garbage to find a couple of GOOD paying pieces or cars. I am down to a little 2 car hauler, and sometimes I spend 3 hours putting two cars together. But I NEVER run to break even. I get alot of calls from local dealers, and those pay the best. But when they arent calling I have to pull from load boards. I really believe that a guy can make money out here with any trailer, WITH a little bit of patience, determination, and just flat out hustling. I have seen 5 and 6 car loads going for up to $2.50 a mile from Phx to TX. But there is never anything coming back out, unless you want to run to CT. You can put 5 drops togehter running for $3.00 a mile, but you have to thinkn about 5 p/u's and five drops. That is alot of time and work, plus the miles in between each of those picks and drops can easily add 3-400 miles that nobody ever puts into their mileage equations. If you are averageing $2.00 a mile you have to be making money. I only average @ $1.20 to $1.30 a mile and I am doing well. Class 8 O/O are running for about $.90 a mile right now, and I dont see any trucks parking. Maybee you could look at a different lane to move cars, see if they pay more going north.
ccoop769

I go north too. I just got back from NY Champlain and Calais Maine. From Tx houston cause I couldnt find anything else paying good.

I am making money but u know the game, more is better.
Sometimes I think a 3 is not effecient and that I can do alot better with a 5 car trailer. Even if i mininum at 2.00 per mile, that would be fine!! I have a wife that spends alot of time on the internet and between us both, we are pretty good at planning a route without going off track by much.


The main thing im trying to see if cars is the right dept to make good money if I expand and start dumping more money into this biz!!!
phil

Freight usually pays better than cars, and with cars you have alot more liablilty, I think anyways. Its real easy for some bonehead to walk by and mess with a car on your trailer, or rocks coming off the road and breaking windows. For me though, its just easier to put a load of cars together than freight. From my experience, more is NOT always better. I have been on my own for a year, and have given ample time to a 45' lowboy, and did good, a Pete 379 with a 48' stepdeck, lost my butt, and now I am doing better then ever with a 32' trailer. Gary and Dennis both told me that it was not the time to go bigger, and they were right. But I chose to go smaller for fuel and truck repair, and its working.
Gary

ccoop769,

The rates the guys get working with us fluctuate. We see as low as $1.30 per mile to as much as $3.00 and $4.00 a mile on our loads. The thing is we rarely ever deadhead anywhere, so even at the lower rates we do pretty decent. To get the big numbers a guy has to have the right set up and be in the right place at the right time. I don't know what it is but sometimes a guy will get on a streak for a long stretch and every load is good.  

I was doing some figuring for one of the guys here the other day. We were figuring how many weeks he actually worked and how much money he had earned since he started running with us 6 months ago. He started here without any experience and out of 6 months with us he put in 3 months 3 weeks on the road actually working. Out of his first 6 months there was 3 weeks he was down working on his truck and there was a week off at home for every month.  Thats a total of 9 weeks not working in a 6 month stretch. He had earned $70,000.00 for 3 months 3 weeks of actual work.

It takes time to learn this business and it can be aggravating for a guy until gets use to it. If this Owner Operator can stay on track and roll with the Punch's I expect him to earn over $200,000.00 this year.

If what your doing is producing good numbers don't assume you can do better with different equipment or doing something else. Before you change anything research the hell out of it. I've seen several guys come and go because they had a bad week or two and get upset about it. Thats usually when some joker will come along and tell you how well he's doing or how you have the wrong type of equipment.

If what your doing is working, other than maybe a little fine tuning don't mess with it!
Gary

phil wrote:
Freight usually pays better than cars, and with cars you have alot more liablilty, I think anyways. Its real easy for some bonehead to walk by and mess with a car on your trailer, or rocks coming off the road and breaking windows. For me though, its just easier to put a load of cars together than freight. From my experience, more is NOT always better. I have been on my own for a year, and have given ample time to a 45' lowboy, and did good, a Pete 379 with a 48' stepdeck, lost my butt, and now I am doing better then ever with a 32' trailer. Gary and Dennis both told me that it was not the time to go bigger, and they were right. But I chose to go smaller for fuel and truck repair, and its working.


Hey Phil are you going to stay with the shorty? Or at some point get a longer trailer?
Vegas Max

ccoop,
As an example, I "pimp"my own freight. I haul freight and cars with the majority of my freight is a dedicated customer that I haul out of CA all over 11 western states. I try to at least a load of cars ( 2-3) into L.A., my dedicated out and freight or cars back home or to L.A. depending on my schedule. Last year I worked about 9 to 10 months and averaged 3-4 days a week and did about $130K last year.
I try to average at least $1.50 a mile including dead heading if I have to. I ran about 85K miles last year.
Jerry

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