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BigJames

Regular cab trucks?

Where do you guys with regular cabs sleep?  In the truck at a truck stop or just bite the bullet and get a motel?  Hampton Inn is killing me!  havent seen a motel 6 in 500 miles!
TriSum

Hotel - Motel - Holiday Inn............

Isn't that how that song goes ???

David
Coastal Hotshots
BigJames

thats what i was thinkin most people did.  i need a bigger truck!
Gary

Guys working with us with regular cabs usually get a sleeper. If they have a stock pickup bed they usually get a cowtown sleeper. If they have the cab n chassis they get a AA style 36" to 42" sleeper depending on the wheel base. Motel's will eat your profit up quickly.
BigJames

im just goin to get crew cab truck and look into the woodhouse or the crew cab sleeper i think.  that way it could be easily converted back into a regular truck.  lookin into a F-450 ive found.  anybody had any experiance with the woodhouse sleepers?  nobody really saying good or bad about them.  i think the crew cab sleeper would be a little cramped as im 6'1" and 350 lbs. i think i could fill that space up real quick.
SLM TRANSPORT

Thats pretty cool. What is the name of the Co that makes those??
BigJames

dont seem like thats a bad price either.
azdutch

Funny you should mention this place.  I was talking with Sweet about six months to a  year ago about these sleepers.  They were trying to get them on the market.  I was looking into them as a way to get a toilet in a small sleeper.  My truck has no bed though and these are made for trucks with bed.  I sent a couple drawings to the guy and he quoted me a price a bit out of my range for one that would saddle the frame and allow me enough room for a portapotty under a flip up seat.  Dutch
Brisco

OK, here's my idea.................

Instead of designing this thing the way it is now, design it so that it saddles the frame like the ones AA Sleepers make. Take out that back door. In that one pic where that "seat" is, place a "shower/potty" room with all tanks (water/waste) built into the saddled areas that fits below the frame sides. (CapriCamper.com has such a shower in one of their units that is only like 23" wide & 30" deep) Then on the oher side of the sleeper place a similar sized closet/drawered dresser area with maybe a small microwave on the very top.

One could get a 4500 "4" door C&C and place this unit on the back with access to it from the inside of the truck like a regular sleeper. In the back seat area of your 4500 you put a nice reclining bucket seat kind of "off centered" to the left or right and then place a nice 27" flat screen on the other side. With that seat off centered, you could recline and place a small ottoman in front of you and watch your TV just like you do when you're at home in your big recliner. Gotta go to the bathroom?? No worries, the john is right there. Sleepy?? No worries either, your bed is right above you. Just woke up and need a shower and don't feel like taking one in some shower stall where 17,000 truckers before you peed while taking their shower?? No worries again, your personal shower is right there too.

OK, who's with me!!!

Let's contact these people at panther campers and tell them we have a million dollar idea for them!

Gary

Call them up.
SLM TRANSPORT

I just thought about something .. i dont think this would work with a wedge car hualer. The way the thing sticks way up above the roof of the truck would be a problem on our Dodge.
TonyUFN

SLM TRANSPORT wrote:
I just thought about something .. i dont think this would work with a wedge car hualer. The way the thing sticks way up above the roof of the truck would be a problem on our Dodge.


Its only a problem if you plan on turning
Gary

I can see it now, you have your slide outs out and a JB hunt driver knocks it off backing in next to you in the middle of the night.   Or better yet you crank it all out in the evening and the next morning it's broke and won't slide back in.  Put you oversized load signs on the truck and get a permit, the load can't be late  

It really is a good idea, I've seen big trucks like race car haulers and van lines with them. I wonder how much it would weigh?
azdutch

Worse yet is what if the toilet was in the slide out when the truck knocks it off and you are in their doing some ' paper work '      
EB

Here's a link to a place in Fort Worth that makes DOT legal sleepers for little trucks I've been looking at.  http://www.cowtownsleepers.com/sleepers.html The oilfield has died in my area and I'm looking to maybe taking it on the road and I know the motels would eat up most of the profit. Just something else for you to look at.
Adam-MN

$1900 for those is an INCREDIBLY good price, don't those crew cab sleepers cost something insane like $2500?

My truck has the frame extended 4 feet, but it has a bed on it for loading and carrying an entire car, so there's not much room behind the cab.  I've spent a whole lot of time thinking about sleeper designs to go over the cab, and my only concern is about wind resistance.

It's easy as can be to build it with flat sides, like any class C RV, or the sleeper in this thread here, but it seems to me that the air having to go over those sharp edges would create a lot of drag.  Maybe not, though.  What does everyone think?
ozo

I have had every sleeper configuration made-sit in to walk in since 1970. This sleeper has all major points covered, and then some, judging from the info listed on this thread.
With simple modification, it could work for any of our truck needs in this Tonka Toy world we aspire to, and be COMFORTABLE.
I like it !! I believe I will have to contact them, let them know that they may have a market they're unaware of.......extensively. [they will have to offer optional interiors, of course]
Bed on or bed off, this could be sweet with a little design engineering.
Dorothy said it best, " there's no place like home " [on the road] .
azdutch

When I spoke with james sweet about six months ago about these sleepers he said they were trying to get the project off the ground.  I offered to buy one if they reduced the price a little and talk it up big around the hotshot world.  they were no too interested in that concept much to my pocket books chagrin.  I really like the design and he sent me some of the diagrams and I sent them back with modifications that would make the camper sleeper a bit more comfy for guys like us that want to cut the edge off of going to hotels.  My design would make the unit sit on a cab n chassis with a slight saddle effect and where on the original models where the body is made to sit in a truck bed so it is narrow in the middle it would be a full 80 inches approximatly which would then create a fully wide camper effect which would then allow for believe it or not a 24"X26" mini shower pan on one side with a ten gallon fresh water supply and a 15 gallon grey waste tank that sits inside the side storage area that creates the saddle effect. This shower is 24" wide and then a small sink is beside it sitting on a little base cabinet that also goes to the grey waste tank. above is a small shelf with the side window behind it.  On the opposite side is a base cabine maybe 12 inches wide for storage and a high cabinet for storage. the little counter would be enough to allow a mini microwave and or a ammonia based cooler unit for food or whatever.  the remaining 2 feet going towards the front of the sleeper would be a little seat with a pop up top to allow a little porta potty underneith for times when there is no other option. the seat faces towards the middle of the sleeper and on the face of the sleeper towards the front and under the cab over part is a little fold up and down table top that would allow you to have a writing space for doing billing or other paper work or eating the microwave burritos we all live on  :D  If I can find the diagrams they sent and the ones I altered and returned to them I will post them.  Years ago I was a carpenter, and before that even more years back I worked in a boatyard doing modifications and finishing so I saw a lot of concepts where people designed in the most ammenities in the least amount of space.  notice that a lot of the stuff I am talking about actually has double duty either storing stuff in side it for other functions or folding up and down etc.  It the marine world weight is not a big issue unless it is causing the craft to actually sink  but in the hotshot world weight is an issue but can be circumvented by using composites etc and cabinetry thea is lighter duty than what we would use in a home.  I actually have considered starting up a company to fabricate such sleepers as these in lieu of driving   yeah thats going to happen in reality.  We all worry about miles per gallon but if you design a sleeper that is aerodynamic and if light enough then the resulting offset to fuel mileage is not so bad in comparison to the cost for a hotel room.  figure cost of room, taxes, parking issues and the loss of 1 to 2 miles per gallon per day is not so bad.  you are allowed something like a 50 dollars aday write off for food and lodging right?  If you feed yourself out of the camper for a couple meals a day and splurge on only one big one a day as opposed to the losr MPG is this penciled out?  I dont know as of this writing but I will be doing some figuring after I shut up.  If you have 8 hours actual driving time per day out of the allowed time of service at maybe an average of 60 MPH that is around 500 miles a day you get maybe 9 mpg if possible? thats like 55 gallons of fuel ( I am talking about people who obey the hours of service rules sic) at 2.50 per gallon? $137 dollars  lose 2 mph and the difference is 16 more gallons at $2.50 a gallon or 35 bucks a daynow I am only using numbers and we all know it's not a perfect world and those numbers can go right out the window at a moments notice and I most likely have made a mistake in my calculations that one of you will catch.  What does everyone think?  Dutch
ccoop769

Im just curious what would happen if the truck driver made any type turn with this sleeper. From the looks of the picture, it looks like you cant even turn.
SLM TRANSPORT

Yea coop i was thinking the same thing. I was also thinking how this set up would not work for car hualers with wedge trailer. I only have maybe 10 in beyween the cab of me truck and the flips. If i had this sleeper i would never be able to use my flip UNLESS the sleeper were to sit almost flush with the cab. I really like this sleeper. Shame its so tall.  
ccoop769

SLM TRANSPORT wrote:
Yea coop i was thinking the same thing. I was also thinking how this set up would not work for car hualers with wedge trailer. I only have maybe 10 in beyween the cab of me truck and the flips. If i had this sleeper i would never be able to use my flip UNLESS the sleeper were to sit almost flush with the cab. I really like this sleeper. Shame its so tall.  


I wouldnt just say car haulers, I would say anybody with a deck above theire bed like steps, and drops. Basically No wedge would work, flips wouldnt even make a difference.
SLM TRANSPORT

Yea your right the more i look at it the more i can see how that would not work out. That sucks . It would be nice for goofin off without the trailer.
azdutch

yeah a car hauler would not benefit from this design. tthey would have to stay with a woodhouse or a A.A. or a refurbished kenworth sleeper.  but a step deck like mine would be ok as long as the proper cab to axle measurement is allowed for.  like me I have a 108 cab to axle measurement and a 102 inch wide trailer which gives me a 51 inch radius of clearance from the kingpin. so I basically have around 50 inches I could use for a sleeper, and still have clearance.  the unit would have to be saddle mounted to provide adequate anchoring and keep the center of gravity lower.  the real only advantage of this sleeper would be to allow some room for the person to sit up and or stand in the unit and have a few amenities. the top heaveyness would also be a issue if one was making radical turns, but I cant see a truck and 45 foot trailer doing that unless trying to avoid running someone over.  In closing I say that this sleeper would only work with a cab and chassis set up with a adequate distance of cab to axel measurement. dutch
ccoop769

But the picture posted truck has a 8 foot standard bed. That has only a few inches clearance going straight from the looks of it. I understand about longer wheel base trucks. Even pulling a 5th wheel camper that would be scarry, just from the looks of it.
azdutch

I see what you mean Coop. I guess the unit would be restricted to c+c models with longer cab to axle measurements. dutch
ozo

Lest we not forget......we are Tonka Toy in fashion.
As we try to create the same environment as big trucks........
we must keep in mind who we are, that's not to say engineer, innovate, design, and above all, THINK !!!   No telling what we may conquer.
But, we have to keep it in perspective. Give and take. Most of us are licensed well under half of big trucks.
Other than my brother Dutch, and his 'book' time, most of us can't afford the weight for potty amenities and the like.
[ Ammendment : Many of us know that my dear friend Dutch enjoys the comforts in life, like a good book and a throne to read it on. He has a truck that will allow the extra weight for clean and gray water storage.
Water weighs almost 8 lbs/gal. Keep this in mind when designing your comforts.]
azdutch

ozo wrote:
Lest we not forget......we are Tonka Toy in fashion.
As we try to create the same environment as big trucks........
we must keep in mind who we are, that's not to say engineer, innovate, design, and above all, THINK !!!   No telling what we may conquer.
But, we have to keep it in pespective. Give and take. Most of us are licensed well under half of big trucks.
Other than my brother Dutch, and his 'book' time, most of us can't afford the weight for potty amenities and the like.
azdutch

Sorry guys I screwed up my post with a quote a minute ago.  Ozo, I dont understand the last part of your post but I sense I have stepped on it some how with you. I apologise if I did or said something wrong or ignorant on my part.  you have many more years in this trade than I do and I guess I should just shut up and do more listening. dutch
ozo

No No No my great Brother Dutch.....
I don't believe you could ever offend me, even if you had it in your nature to even try to.
That was a 'funny' and intended to give you, above everyone else, a free pass to enjoy your comforts.
I hope that noone else read it as offensive or negative, so please let me apologize to you and all if my words appear to have come out the wrong end of me.
You are family. You are good family. Just like 'Hotel California', you can check out, but you can never leave.
[the entire mumble came from you stating 'as long as you have a book and a potty, you have the patience to wait'. That's all, nothing more or less]
Slap me when you see me. I owe you a hug and a beer.
Luv ya, Ozo
ozo

P.S.  Dutch, my brother, don't you dare 'shut up'...........
       You are always a breath of fresh air on this forum.
azdutch

Ozo, and everyone else.  Sorry if I got too sensitive and misinterpreted your message.  Ozo pm'd me and explained what he was talking about and it was actually a reference to something I said !  Boy I started to shrink from embarassment in my chair right there !  when the keyboard went out of sight I knew I was in deep do-do, in fact I'm typing by memory right now with my hands over my head. Dutch  
azdutch

Mid west, now thats what I'm talkin about ! LOL :D  I'm gonna need a bigger truck or a smaller trailer ???  I bet that rig has hot and cold running lot lizards !!!  P.S. That bathroom is big enough for my fat old butt and couple of magazines or a book definately ! Heck I'd need a driving team partner cause I'd never come out ! Dutch
azdutch

The bathroom is a place near and dear to my heart in my old age. I am trying to get my sleeper mounted, I am having a hard time due to the fact I live in a home owners association that is run by a bunch of people so old they consider me a kid. Along with that they are picky as all get out.  If I bring my truck home they call the police to force me to move it. they have snitches everywhere that just itch for me to even drive by my house   so I end up driving back and forth to my storage yard  doing fitting and fabrication.  hopefully today or tommorow for the sleeper and then pictures of the old guy truck.  As far as a partner I have a ex marine buddy who served in desert storm and is missing most of his intestines . He will suddenly get the deer in the headlight look on his face and run for the nearest bathroom.  He ought to be a fair choice for a co-driver???  I know his wife wouldnt miss him much if he went on the road  LOL !  I drove with him once from Phoenix to Virginia and back  and I looked like a labrador retreiver all the way with my head out the window for air !   Poor guy could eat angel food cake and still clear all the workers away from a garbage transfer station.
Midwest, I have a list of all the things you need to have for the initial DOT inspection, pm me your fax # if you have one and I'll send it to you along with a lot of other little tidbits of info. Garys brother has a guide he sells that is pretty concise on what is needed to get started have you picked it up yet?  It sure helped me get all the ducks in a row and marching straight.  I have job application I can send too for the requirement in your files, I had my wife make up an accident register that can also be copied.  There are so many little things to do when you start putting your records binder together.  I can help walk you through it as to how to set it up once you get all the required stuff from Gary's brothers guide.  And hey I like crab fishing !  anything that breathes underwater is on my list !!!  Dutch
Gary

I'm not picky. Crab, seal dolphin boat passing by, as long as I hook something I'm a happy. :D
phil

That truck was for sale at the same dealer that I bought my Pete at a couple years ago, $134,000 with 610,000 miles on it. Jennifer and I walked through it, and WANTED it, but I dont see how these guys afford these trucks. New they can get up over $300,000.
bobbym60

truck sleepers

so will these guys build one of these if for me,at these prices,and with a/c for my f-350

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